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Re: Advice on COMCIFS policy regarding compatibility of CIFsyntaxwith other domains. .
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- From: "Herbert J. Bernstein" <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:44:12 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear James, I am not objecting to Brian's document. I think we should keep as much of it as possible for CIF2. The only problem is that it is a "semantic" document and your policy according to you and John B. seems to want to relegate all semantic issues to the dictionaries. It is that relegation to which I am objecting. Most features consist of both syntactic and semantic components, and I find it much less confusing to deal with a feature in its entirety than to deal with just the syntax. Until this discussion, I had thought the intent of the dictionaries was to deal with the tag definitions particular to certain domains and that both the syantax and semantics of CIF was a global concern. I find the relegation of the semantics of CIF2 to the dictionaries surprising and recommend against it. I want to keep Brian's document a global document. Regards, Herbert ===================================================== Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 +1-631-244-3035 yaya@dowling.edu ===================================================== On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, James Hester wrote: > Dear Herbert, > > Please explain why you think that the latest version of the guiding > principles is at variance with the 'Common Semantic Features' document > and approach. For example, what would prevent us from adopting a > similar CSF document for CIF2? It would help if you quoted particular > points from the guidelines in your reply. > > James. > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Herbert J. Bernstein > <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com> wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I would suggest that people review Brian's excellent common >> semantic features document for CIF 1.1. I think keeping those >> sort of semantic decisions couple to the syntax decisions for >> CIF has worked well, and I do not think the sharp departure >> now proposed for handling CIF2 will work as well for the >> reasons I stated previously. It ain't broke. Why are >> we fixing it? New feautures involve a mix of syntax and >> semantics depedending on the feature. I believe we should >> be focusing on features rather than the bin within which >> they fit for presentation purposes. >> >> Regards, >> Herbert >> ===================================================== >> Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science >> Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 >> Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 >> >> +1-631-244-3035 >> yaya@dowling.edu >> ===================================================== >> > > > -- > T +61 (02) 9717 9907 > F +61 (02) 9717 3145 > M +61 (04) 0249 4148 > _______________________________________________ > comcifs mailing list > comcifs@iucr.org > http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/comcifs >
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