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Re: Additional update to core dictionary
- To: "Discussion list of the IUCr Committee for the Maintenance of the CIFStandard (COMCIFS)" <comcifs@iucr.org>
- Subject: Re: Additional update to core dictionary
- From: "Herbert J. Bernstein" <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:08:33 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Colleagues, I have no objection to the proposed tag as defined, but suggest that the name _journal_article_doi might more clearly reflect the intent, especially as we move increasingly to online publication of articles rather than having our papers on true and wonderful paper. I admit to being torn between my desire to save trees and my love for finding real papers in library stacks, but the handwriting on the facebook wall is clear -- paper publishing is being replaced by electronic publishing and, sadly, the term "paper" rather than "article" is less and less appropriate. This is just a suggestion. As for deferring providing a tag for datasets and other supplemental material, that is probably wise, but it might be sensible to start a discussion among the IUCr, CSD and the PDB. The PDB already has an _entry.pdbx_DOI tag to record the DOI's of their entries, and it would be good if whatever cross-referencing solution was eventually achieved had as much commonality between coreCIF and mmCIF as possible. Regards, Herbert ===================================================== Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 +1-631-244-3035 yaya@dowling.edu ===================================================== On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, James Hester wrote: > I see no problem with Brian adding in _journal_paper_doi as described below. > > James. > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Brian McMahon <bm@iucr.org> wrote: >> Colleagues >> >> Assuming James also approves the recent "fast-track" changes, I'll >> be happy to work on releasing quickly a new minor upgrade version >> of the core CIF dictionary. >> >> With your indulgence, I would like to take the opportunity to add >> at the same time >> _journal_paper_doi >> as a new member of the JOURNAL category, expressing the digital >> object identifier (DOI) assigned to the article published from >> the data in the current CIF, e.g. >> _journal_paper_doi '10.1107/S010876739101067X' >> >> Traditionally, these _journal_ items have been taken to be in >> the gift of the IUCr journals staff, and have not gone through >> the usual formal review process. They are not individually >> defined in the core dictionary, though perhaps they should be. >> >> I would not expect any particular concern over the proposed new >> item; it's just another piece of bibliographic housekeeping. >> However, there is the possibility of creating new data names to >> record DOIs for other associated publications or data sets, >> now that it is starting to become common practice to register such >> identifiers for data sets. We have considered this possibility >> carefully in the Acta office, and have come to the conclusion that >> such definitions would be premature. There is as yet no established >> code of practice for assigning DOIs to data sets in a way that >> records their relationship to other data sets or publications. >> CrossRef, the body that has managed DOIs centrally for the >> publishing industry, is now partnered by DataCite, which seeks >> to perform the same role for research data sets. We feel that it >> would be best to track any protocols these bodies establish for >> cross-linking before seeking to emulate them with suitable >> CIF data names. >> >> On the other hand, if any of you feel differently about this, >> or have specific data names that you wish to suggest, please >> feel free to do so. >> >> Best wishes >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> comcifs mailing list >> comcifs@iucr.org >> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/comcifs >> > > > > -- > T +61 (02) 9717 9907 > F +61 (02) 9717 3145 > M +61 (04) 0249 4148 > _______________________________________________ > comcifs mailing list > comcifs@iucr.org > http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/comcifs >
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