Hello everyone, I'm not sure exactly who is on this list, but I am sure that someone could make some comment. I am working on developing CIF I/O libraries for the CCP4 software, and I am just about to make a start on the DDL representation. The versions which I have are DDL v 2.0.15 and mmCIF v 1995-02-13 . I know that these are strictly speaking pre-release, and I was wondering what the likely time of the public announcement is, and if there are any good reasons why I should not base my development on these versions of the language. I notice that other proposals which are appearing are based on the old formalism (i.e. _atom_site_attached_hydrogens rather than _atom_site.attached_hydrogens), and I think that the sooner the new version is released the better. I should think that the Montreal workshop is an important point, by which this ought to be clarified, if at all possible. BTW, my position on this is that I prefer the new formalism, but there are more basic problems with the published STAR syntax which ought to be sorted out at some point. Many thanks for any help, Peter Keller. P.S. A couple of typo's in mmCIF v 1995-02-13: 13733c13733 < 'K2HgI4 --- > 'K2HgI4' 21793c21793 < 'nanometres' 'nanometres (meters * 10^( -9)) --- > 'nanometres' 'nanometres (meters * 10^( -9))' ======================================================================== Peter Keller. \ Dept. of Biology and \ "Not even the greatest nonsense is beyond Biochemistry, \ the reach of human invention." University of Bath, \ Bath, BA2 7AY, UK. \ --- Ryszard Kapuscinski ------------------------------\----------------------------------------- Tel. (+44/0)1225 826826 x 4302 | Email: P.A.Keller@bath.ac.uk (Internet) Fax. (+44/0)1225 826449 | P.A.Keller%bath.ac.uk@UKACRL (BITNET) ========================================================================