Two questions about representation of author lists: 1. Since we are not supposed to assume ordering in CIF's, and since the order of authors in an author list is sometimes important, should there not be a token available to specify the order of authors in an author list? For example, we could have _audit_author.ordinal, _citation_author.ordinal, and _citation_editor.ordinal, each of which would be a non-mandatory integer unique within the author or editor list of any data block or citation, establishing the relative ordering of authors. 2. How is the phrase "et al." to be handled in mmCIF. I am not recommending that it ever be used, but it does come up and a standard mmCIF presentation for use in author lists would be helpful. -- HJB