Paula, It will create confusion if you have new items for the PDB SCALE transformation because SCALE maps directly into _atom_site.frac_transf_matrix. The definition of ORIGX and SCALE are unambiguous in the PDB format description and agree with: e. The distributed entry will contain: 1) ORIGX - transformation from the distributed to the submitted coordinates. 2) SCALE - transformation from the distributed to the fractional coordinates. I can assure you that, apart from actual errors that we may have missed, the SCALE transformation in every PDB entry transforms the orthogonal Angstrom coordinates in the entry to fractional. (Note that for NMR and theoretical models we use an identity transformation for SCALE.) In the mmCIF dictionary I find: used to transform Cartesian coordinates in the ATOM_SITE category to fractional coordinates in the same category. Could you explain to me what I am missing here? Frances P.S. We do not require that coordinates be in the default orthogonal frame for the space group. The depositor can use whatever coordinate frame is desired and SCALE in the entry will generate fractional from the coordinates.