Hello there - Jiansheng Jiang writes - > Still I could not find the PDB subset > cif for SF from mmCIF 0.9.0. > > > _phasing_MIR_refln.der_id . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_calc . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 79 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_calc_au . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_meas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91 99 104 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_meas_au . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_meas_sigma . . . . . . . . . . . 98 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.F_meas_sigma_au . . . . . . . . . . 103 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.index_h . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 108 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.index_k . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 112 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.index_l . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116 > > _phasing_MIR_refln.phase_calc . . . . . . . . . . . . 120 Perhaps a little history would help clear up the mystery here. Some years ago, the PDB needed a set of CIF definitions for their structure factor files. Providing data items for the native data was a simple matter of added a few more data items to the REFLN category than were already present in the mmCIF draft. But the PDB also asked us for data items for MIR data, and here we generated something based on the still (at that point) evolving PHASING categories in the mmCIF draft. Subsequent to that, the mmCIF draft dictionary went out for community review, and one of the changes that we were asked to make was to provide for storing all of the MIR (or MAD) data sets used in a phase determination within the same data block as the native data (the data against which the structure was eventually refined.) This had not been our original data model - we had thought that users would store derivative data in separate data blocks. But people seemed to want them in the same data block as the native, so we redesigned the data model in the PHASING category to provide for this. At present, the PHASING_SET categories are where the reflections are actually stored, and then the PHASING_MIR or PHASING_MAD categories can refer to those data sets by their set id. This revised model for the PHASING categories was implemented in summer of 1995, and has been part of the mmCIF draft since that time. It seems that we have left some of the data names developed for the PDB structure factor files dangling in the process of responding to the desires of the community - I am sorry for that. The question is how to fix the situation, and I see two paths. The simplest would be for the PDB to switch to the data names in the current data model. If for some reason that poses a difficulty, we would be happy to provide a compatability dictionary that aliases the old-style names to their current forms. Please tell us which path you prefer to take, and we will act accordingly. Best wishes - Paula ******************************************************************************** Dr. Paula M. D. Fitzgerald ______________ voice and FAX: (908) 594-5510 Merck Research Laboratories ______________ email: paula_fitzgerald@merck.com P.O. Box 2000, Ry50-105 ______________ or bean@merck.com Rahway, NJ 07065 USA (for express mail use 126 E. Lincoln Ave. instead of P. O. Box 2000) ********************************************************************************