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Re: [ddlm-group] Role of separators in CIF
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- Subject: Re: [ddlm-group] Role of separators in CIF
- From: John Westbrook <jwest@pdb-mail.rutgers.edu>
- Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:22:46 -0500
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>> "That <quote> and <double quote> may appear in non-delimited strings, as >> long as they are not the first character" >> For CIF2 I vote with Nick against this. John Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: > If the will of the body is that we are not going to have CIF 1.5, then, > reluctantly, I vote 'for' allowing quote characters in non-delimited > strings provided they are not the first character -- Herbert > > ===================================================== > Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science > Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 > Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 > > +1-631-244-3035 > yaya@dowling.edu > ===================================================== > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, SIMON WESTRIP wrote: > >> I vote 'for' >> >> Simon >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> >> From: James Hester <jamesrhester@gmail.com> >> To: Group finalising DDLm and associated dictionaries >> <ddlm-group@iucr.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009 5:56:52 >> Subject: Re: [ddlm-group] Role of separators in CIF >> >> *NOTE REQUEST FOR VOTE BELOW* >> >> Simon: From reading your previous emails, I'm guessing that the source of >> your concern is that the possible characterset of non-delimited strings >> appears more restrictive than is strictly necessary. In particular, >> you're >> not sure why we have excluded quote and double quote from non-delimited >> strings. >> >> You are correct that the other CIF2 syntax does not require that quote or >> double quote are excluded from non-delimited strings (apart from the >> first >> character, of course). The exclusion of the quote/double quote was on >> general principle of keeping all characters that serve as delimiters >> out of >> non-delimited strings, even if those characters could never cause >> confusion. >> It also has the benefit of allowing some syntax errors to be picked up. >> >> Nick is with me in Sydney, and we have decided that this is the sort of >> issue that we just have to vote on, as the arguments either way are not >> conclusive. >> >> I would therefore call everybody to vote on the following proposition: >> >> "That <quote> and <double quote> may appear in non-delimited strings, as >> long as they are not the first character" >> >> Voting so far: >> >> Against: Nick >> For: James >> Agnostic: ? >> >> -- >> T +61 (02) 9717 9907 >> F +61 (02) 9717 3145 >> M +61 (04) 0249 4148 >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ddlm-group mailing list > ddlm-group@iucr.org > http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group _______________________________________________ ddlm-group mailing list ddlm-group@iucr.org http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group
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