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Re: IUCr 2026 keynote proposal on crystal data standards
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- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:18:07 -0500
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Dear James,
 I am very familiar with Vitaliy Kurlin's work. It is sound in two dimensions and even in three when you avoid the boundaries of the space, and every lattice is arbitrarily near a non-boundary lattice, so his
"invariants" can be very useful for work that does not need to deal with high symmetry, but for some
disciplines, like experimental crystallography, that depend heavily on accurate identification of symmetry,
as he himself notes, his invariants aren't invariant at the boundaries,i.e."Conventional representations based on reduced cells discontinuously change under almost any perturbation of atoms, which led to the
accumulation of near-duplicates in major databases of experimental structures."  For those whodo diffraction-based experimental crystallography, cell reduction and full consideration of the combinatorial complexity arising from cell reduction is and will remain important, if only to be able to do the best refinements.
 Regards,
  Herbert
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:07 PM James H via comcifs <comcifs@mailman.iucr.org> wrote:
_______________________________________________Dear COMCIFS,Please see information below regarding a proposed keynote for IUCr 2026. Prof Kurlin's keynote has been put forward by the Mathematical Crystallography Commission and is supported by CommDat, and he has requested COMCIFS support as well. I believe the subject matter is something that COMCIFS should support, and given the time constraints (by 1st March) I have taken the liberty of advising Prof Kurlin that we support the proposed keynote without consulting COMCIFS first. If there are any objections, please let me know.best wishes,James.---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Prof Vitaliy Kurlin <vitaliy.kurlin@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 at 09:54
Subject: IUCr 2026 keynote proposal on crystal data standards
To: <jamesrhester@gmail.com>[edited]------------------------------
Speaker. Vitaliy Kurlin, vitaliy.kurlin@liverpool.ac.uk
Materials Innovation Factory, University of Liverpool, UK
Area of Expertise. Data Science for applications in crystallography
(complete and continuous invariants of periodic crystals for reliable
data standards and ultra-fast detection of near duplicates in massive
datasets), materials chemistry (geographic-style maps for
configuration spaces of atomic structures), and structural biology
(invertible and bi-continuous invariants of protein backbones for
detecting duplicates in the PDB), see more details at
https://kurlin.org/research-papers.php#Geometric-Data-Science
Title. A mathematically justified data standard for crystal structures.
Abstract. Crystal structures are determined in a rigid form and hence
keep all their properties under rigid motion within the same ambient
environment. However, structures that have different rigid shapes can
substantially differ by properties and hence should be reliably
distinguished, for example polymorphs with different solubility.
Conventional representations based on reduced cells discontinuously
change under almost any perturbation of atoms, which led to the
accumulation of near-duplicates in major databases of experimental
structures [1]. This ambiguity was recently resolved by generically
complete and continuous invariants that distinguish all non-duplicate
periodic crystals in the Cambridge Structural Database within a few
minutes on a modest desktop computer [2]. Any dataset of experimental
or simulated crystals can be visualised on maps with continuous and
analytically defined invariant coordinates [3]. These invariants can
be inverted to any generic periodic structure in 3 dimensions,
uniquely under any distance-preserving transformation, and hence
mathematically justify a new rigorous data standard for upholding
scientific integrity in crystallography.
[1] O.Anosova, V.Kurlin, M.Senechal. The importance of definitions in
crystallography. IUCrJ 11 (4), 453-463 (2024).
[2] D.Widdowson, V.Kurlin. Resolving the data ambiguity for periodic
crystals. Advances in Neural Information Processing Systems (NeurIPS),
v.35, p.24625-24638 (2022).
[3] D.Widdowson, V.Kurlin. Continuous invariant-based maps of the
Cambridge Structural Database. Crystal Growth & Design, 24(13),
5627–5636 (2024).
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