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Re: CCDC/IUCr Journals proposal 2: Addition of identifiers toAUDIT_AUTHOR and related categories.

  • To: James Hester <james.r.hester@gmail.com>, Distribution list of the IUCr COMCIFS Core Dictionary Maintenance Group<coredmg@iucr.org>
  • Subject: Re: CCDC/IUCr Journals proposal 2: Addition of identifiers toAUDIT_AUTHOR and related categories.
  • From: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286@cam.ac.uk>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 03:12:58 +0000
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Normally it would be a good idea to be informed by current usage elsewhere, but
 bibliographic metadata is variable and inconsistent. Here's a typical <meta> entry in highwire format:

<meta name="citation_author" content="Cheng-Ruei Lee" />
<meta name="citation_author_institution" content="Institute of Plant Biology, National Taiwan University" />
<meta name="citation_author_institution" content="Institute of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, National Taiwan University" />
<meta name="citation_author_institution" content="Genome and Systems Biology Degree Program, National Taiwan University" />
<meta name="citation_author_email" content="chengrueilee@ntu.edu.tw" />
<meta name="citation_author_orcid" content="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-1913-9964" />

If this were a published standard I would suggest we adopt some of the terms, But it isn't. So CIF can do it better.
The other place that may standardize de facto is Wikidata/Scholia.
Worth keeping an eye on.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 1:55 AM James Hester <jamesrhester@gmail.com> wrote:
For the full proposal see https://www.iucr.org/__data/iucr/lists/coredmg/msg00345.html

In summary, it is proposed that ORCID ids be added to the relevant categories. The IUCr suggest adding also IUCr Ids as well.

Good idea - the more ids the better... and the IUCr Ids could be added to Wikidata.

My comments: I see nothing controversial here and agree with the IUCr Journals that the question of validity of a given ID is outside the scope of CIF itself.
I'd agree. Validate the ID provider.

"I always retain copyright in my papers, and nothing in any contract I sign with any publisher will override that fact. You should do the same".

Peter Murray-Rust
Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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