Re: [dddwg] Initiation of formal proposal resulting fromdiscussions at the DDDWG satellite meeting of the ECM Croatia
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- Subject: Re: [dddwg] Initiation of formal proposal resulting fromdiscussions at the DDDWG satellite meeting of the ECM Croatia
- From: John Helliwell <john.helliwell@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:10:58 +0000
- Cc: Marek Grabowski <marek@iwonka.med.virginia.edu>
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Dear Wladek,
Thankyou for the exciting news that your Big Data Portal is "As of today, starting to assign doi." I am curious to know some practical details :- (i) how did you assume formal ownership of the datasets in order to be able to apply for those dois ie presumably under a signature from the original experimenters 'transferring ownership' to your Big Data Portal? (ii) Is the permanently funded agency applying for those dois the University of Virginia? Greetings, John PS I think Simon and Andy have answered your technical/timing concerns re dois. Many thanks to them both.
From: dddwg [dddwg-bounces@iucr.org] on behalf of Wladek Minor [wladek@iwonka.med.virginia.edu]
Sent: 03 December 2015 18:40 To: IUCr Working Group on Diffraction data Deposition Cc: Marek Grabowski Subject: Re: [dddwg] Initiation of formal proposal resulting from discussions at the DDDWG satellite meeting of the ECM Croatia Dear All, Some clarifications 1. Frame formats: As I wrote to Herbert, there is no single CBF format - beamlines create various modifications. Some companies that distribute Detectors also created their own frame format. Tom Terwilliger and I are working on minimum metadata header that would allow to process datasets. If this header would be add to every frame format, such a data usually can be process easily regardless the information that is in other part of the header. 2. doi We now have over 2800 publicly available diffraction experiments (around 300 are in pipeline). As of today, we are starting to assign doi. There are several problems related to it. For examle: Once doi is assigned, it can not be removed or modify. What one should do when PDB depositor changes the title. We can not change doi. We will follow PDB approach to it. 3. doi citations People will not use doi citations in their original paper because doi data have to be public and this can happen only when paper is already publish. I do believe that we have catch 22 here. Best regards Wladek On 12/3/2015 12:00 PM, John Helliwell wrote:
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