Re: [ddlm-group] Space as a list item separator>

Could I ask for a clarification of the interpretation of a mixed case
such as:

[1, 2, 3 �4 ] � or �[1,2,3 4]

If quote and space are permitted are the above going to satisfy the
syntax requiremens?

John

Herbert J. Bernstein wrote:
> First amending the arguments
>
> To summarise the arguments:
>
> 1. In favour of both space and comma
> � �- comma is used in some other non-CIF contexts as a list delimiter
> � �- comma allows a large subset of lists and arrays to be carried
> opaquely in CIF 1 and CIF 1.1 documents.
>
> 2. Against comma:
> � �- A single type of separator makes the grammar simpler
> � �- Space is used everywhere else in CIF as a separator (consistency)
> � �- Comma can then be used in non-delimited strings
>
> Then
>
> I vote for comma and space -- Herbert
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> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, James Hester wrote:
>
>> Dear CIF2 people: the time has come to vote on the list item separator
>> issue. �Firstly: as far as I know, nobody is against space as a
>> separator,
>> so spaces will be possible list item separators. �Some may be against
>> commas, so this vote is on whether or not to allow commas.
>>
>> To summarise the arguments:
>>
>> 1. In favour of both space and comma
>> � �- comma is used in some other non-CIF contexts as a list delimiter
>>
>> 2. Against comma:
>> � �- A single type of separator makes the grammar simpler
>> � �- Space is used everywhere else in CIF as a separator (consistency)
>> � �- Comma can then be used in non-delimited strings
>>
>> Space only: Nick, James (Nick is here)
>> Comma and Space: ?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:30 PM, James Hester <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> � � � More specifically, CIF1.1 excludes square brackets as the first
>> � � � character in a non-delimited string.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM, James Hester <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> � � � Dear Herbert: as CIF 1.1 doesn't define lists, I'm not
>> � � � sure why you suggest that the example below is a valid
>> � � � tag.
>>
>> � � � On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Herbert J. Bernstein
>> � � � <[email protected]> wrote:
>> � � � � � � Sorry something got lost in the prior message.
>> � � � � � � �It should have
>> � � � � � � read:
>>
>> � � � � � � � � � Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> � � � � � � � � � �Back to the question of commas.
>> � � � � � � � � � �If you accept the desirability of
>> � � � � � � � � � having a CIF 1.5, commas in lists
>> � � � � � � � � � become very useful. �Someone with
>> � � � � � � � � � a CIF 1.1 editor will be able to
>> � � � � � � � � � prepare a CIF 1.5 file for many
>> � � � � � � � � � useful cases by doing all lists
>> � � � � � � � � � with commas and no embedded blanks
>> � � � � � � � � � as long as they can make their
>> � � � � � � � � � lists fit on single lines. �In CIF
>> � � � � � � � � � 1.1
>>
>> � � � � � � � � � [[1,2,3],[4,5,6],[7,8,9]]
>>
>> � � � � � � � � � is a valid value for a tag, but
>>
>> � � � � � � � � � [[1 2 3] [4 5 6] [7 8 9]]
>>
>> is not.
>>
>>
>> No, neither example is a valid CIF 1.1 tag. �CIF 1.1 explicitly
>> excludes brackets as the first character of a non-delimited
>> string.
>>
>>
>> � � � � � � Having the option of commas in lists
>> � � � � � � will help to smooth the
>> � � � � � � transition for at least some people.
>>
>>
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