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Re: [ddlm-group] Relationship asmong CIF2, STAR,CIF1 and Python. . . .. .
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- Subject: Re: [ddlm-group] Relationship asmong CIF2, STAR,CIF1 and Python. . . .. .
- From: James Hester <jamesrhester@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:03:23 +1100
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dREL strings and elides have nothing to do with CIF2 syntax. They are dREL syntax. A dREL method is just an ordinary string for the CIF2 parser, and has no special status. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Herbert J. Bernstein <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com> wrote: > Dear James, > > Please reread the dREL string quoting specifications. > Please reread the dREL conventions on elides. Let's > settle whether and in what way those items should > remain in the language. > > Regards, > Herbert > > ===================================================== > Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science > Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 > Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 > > +1-631-244-3035 > yaya@dowling.edu > ===================================================== > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, James Hester wrote: > >> I welcome such analysis, which I believe is likely to lead to no more >> than a list of useful editorial changes to DDLm related to small >> changes in syntax since the DDLm draft document was produced. >> >> It is not trivial to produce a CIF2 version that is fundamentally >> unfriendly to DDLm and dREL, given that DDLm and dREL operate at a >> semantic level and we are producing a syntax document. Only if our >> CIF2 syntax were to produce a different infoset (abstract >> datastructure) could some of the concepts in DDLm and dREL become >> poorly specified. >> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Bollinger, John C >> <John.Bollinger@stjude.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, January 14, 2011 2:30 PM, Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: >>> >>>> I would suggest recalling that this CIF2 exercise began with >>>> tryin to define a DDLm/dREL-friendly version of CIF. To the best >>>> of my knowledge, the current DDLm spec is at what is published >>>> on the IUCr web site under http://www.iucr.org/resources/cif/ddl/ddlm >>>> with draft documents from August 2008. I propose that we all >>>> take the time to review those documents and make a conscious >>>> effort to decide if we wish to make use of them as a >>>> base for CIF2 or not. They contain many points relevant >>>> to the current discussion. >>> >>> This is an eminently reasonable suggestion, and I have endeavored to take >>> it. I find I need more time to formulate the results of my analysis, but >>> they do not lead me to the same conclusion that Herbert has reached, that we >>> should start over from scratch. However, we can, perhaps, consider each of >>> the changes in our current draft, as Herbert prodded us to do, and evaluate >>> them against this group's mandate and objectives. We might now draw >>> different conclusions about some of them. >>> >>> I decline to work on this over the weekend, and Monday is a U.S. holiday, >>> so it will be at least Tuesday before a I respond more fully. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John >>> -- >>> John C. Bollinger, Ph.D. >>> Department of Structural Biology >>> St. Jude Children's Research Hospital >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Email Disclaimer: www.stjude.org/emaildisclaimer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ddlm-group mailing list >>> ddlm-group@iucr.org >>> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> T +61 (02) 9717 9907 >> F +61 (02) 9717 3145 >> M +61 (04) 0249 4148 >> _______________________________________________ >> ddlm-group mailing list >> ddlm-group@iucr.org >> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group > > _______________________________________________ > ddlm-group mailing list > ddlm-group@iucr.org > http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group > > -- T +61 (02) 9717 9907 F +61 (02) 9717 3145 M +61 (04) 0249 4148 _______________________________________________ ddlm-group mailing list ddlm-group@iucr.org http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group
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