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Re: [ddlm-group] Fwd: Fwd: Searching for a compromise on eliding

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• Subject: Re: [ddlm-group] Fwd: Fwd: Searching for a compromise on eliding
• From: James Hester <[email protected]>
• Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:07:54 +1100
• In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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If proposal G were to work as you describe instead of how I describe,
how would you rank it relative to P-prime, and why?

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Herbert J. Bernstein
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear James,
>
> �Thank you. �I trust you appeciate that for somebody used
> to the C and Python-style handling of the reverse solidus,
> such as myself, the difference beteen this rule and the C/Pythn rules,
> which would have converted n backslahes into n/2 backslahes
> for even n and (n-1)/2 backslahes plus a backslash, this
> is disconcerting and confusing. �When I look at
>
> ``line 1 \\\
> line 2``
>
> and
>
> ``line 1 \\\\\
> line 2``
>
> I see
>
> <start>line 1 \line 2<finish>
>
> and
>
> <start>line 1 \\line 2><finish>
>
> The question is thus not one of which approach (G or P-prime)
> is more confusing, but one of which one is more confusing
> for whom?
>
> Regards,
> �Herbert
>
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> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, James Hester wrote:
>
>> Proposal G is derived from F', which has the simple rule that n
>> backslashes before <eol> is replaced by n-1 backslashes and <eol>
>> unless there is only 1 backslash, in which case both backslash and
>> <eol> are removed. �So the internal representations of these three
>> strings are:
>>
>> <start>line 1 line 2<finish>
>>
>> <start>line 1 \
>> line 2<finish>
>>
>> <start>line 1 \\
>> line 2<finish>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Herbert J. Bernstein
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> To avoid any misunderstandings, please clarify the meaning of
>>>
>>> ``line 1 \
>>> line 2``
>>>
>>> ``line 1 \\
>>> line 2``
>>>
>>> ``line 1 \\\
>>> line 2``
>>>
>>> under proposal G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 8:41 AM +1100 2/28/11, James Hester wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear DDLm-ers,
>>>>
>>>> Note the forwarded message from Ralf below - he is suggesting Proposal
>>>> G with double backquote (grave accent) as a delimiter.
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Searching for a compromise on eliding
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi James,
>>>>
>>>> P' looks good to me, G better. How about
>>>>
>>>> ``Hello world``
>>>>
>>>> ``\as \many \backslash \as \you \like \but \watch \
>>>> \out \at \end \of \line``
>>>>
>>>> ``embedded `\
>>>> ` are not a problem, too``
>>>>
>>>> Ralf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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