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Comments recieved

Lots of feedback on the recommendations waiting for
me this morning. I'll try to sew these views into
another draft and circulate this over the weekend.
In the southern hemisphere academia is full on at
the moment and in addition to school chores I need to
get my presentation material ready for the congress.

A quick summary on the points made...

Howard: * Modify 1(b) and 1(c) and para 3 in the intro.

John: * Modify para 3 to avoid paperless science!
[I intentionally made this statement strong to provoke
discussion; and was puzzled when it didn't happen sooner.]
* Add a recomm on a "short print version" of text info.

Mike: * Ditto, with new recomm on need for interactive tables.
[Your comment on the needs of "old farts" is a little too
close to home for me to give an unbiased response!]

Ulrich: * Comments on recomm 1(d) wrt para 3.

On this last point we need to be careful not to dwell to much
on the archival side of publishing as its a very specialised
business, and somewhat outside the brief of the WG.  However
I did add 1(d) to the draft as an alert for the concerns that
Ulrich states. As we inevitably move increasingly to electronic
data, we must avoid the sad tales of data lost on superceded
magnetic/electronic media. This is especially the case for
major repositories such as the IUCr, and I was intrigued to
read in the annual report of the AIP (Am. Inst. Physics) is
archiving volumes on microfilm as "still the only medium
guaranteed to be accessible in a century"). If you add to
that the equally sad tales of lost information on paper
(especially photographs!), I'm not sure we should argue
that paper publications ensure long term data retention.
Experience here with several societies is that digitising
all records and placing them on the web is far safer than
having individuals keep paper records (especially photos).
A case can also be made that electronic data proliferation
and internet sharing is a valid archival approach too
(certainly Google will try to convince us that this is so).

Sorry to labour this point, but retention is an important
aspect of what we are advising on ie. we want data to be more
accessible but also preserved.

Cheers
Syd

PS: For quick responses, would para 3 reworded as.....

"It should also be emphasised that the working group is unanimous in 
the view that most crystallographic information should be available 
online as soon as possible, and that the use of the Internet, as a 
means of sharing scientific data, will expand very rapidly over the 
next decade. This is likely to have important implications for many 
print-on-paper scientific publications."

be sufficient?  Suggested rewordings are welcomed.


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University of Western Australia
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