[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Reply to: [list | sender only]
Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- To: IUCr Working Group on Diffraction data Deposition <dddwg@iucr.org>
- Subject: Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- From: John Helliwell <john.helliwell@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 12:41:57 +0000
- In-Reply-To: <56B712DF.5030207@iwonka.med.virginia.edu>
- References: <56B62D88.8080201@esrf.fr><A7B965C0-A786-4126-A1D7-DF5CF99904C3@manchester.ac.uk><56B70486.8020907@esrf.fr>,<56B712DF.5030207@iwonka.med.virginia.edu>
Dear Wladek (and Steve),The point you raise is included within the ESRF Data Policy point 6.1, and indeed supports what you have correctly stated. We all agree basically! Yours sincerely,John Emeritus Prof of Chemistry John R Helliwell DSc_Physics https://www.crcpress.com/Perspectives-in-Crystallography/Helliwell/9781498732109A new book which resonates with the recent UN, UNESCO and IUCr International Year of Crystallography. On 7 Feb 2016, at 09:50, "Wladek Minor" <wladek@iwonka.med.virginia.edu> wrote: > > Dear Andy,> > This is great. You may also look into our server http://proteindiffraction.org.> > I have a question about 3 years. Should it be 3 years since the diffraction experiment or three years after PDB deposit ? In my mind, data should available immediately when PDB deposit is released.> > Best regards> > Wladek> > On 2/7/2016 3:47 AM, Andy Gotz wrote:>> Dear John,>> thank you for your encouragement and support. The dddwg definitely played a role to get us this far and will continue to help defining standards for preserving data for diffraction experiments. We always cite the dddwg and its work when explaining the ESRF data policy. Thank you too and long live the dddwg!>> >> The policy foresees data being released by the PI before the 3 year embargo has expired. This is primarily to allow and encourage scientists to make the data publicly available as soon as they publish their results. The policy does not foresee the specific case of anonymous access for referees before the PI has made the data public and/or the 3 year embargo period has expired. If referees want access to the data beforehand we think it is up to the PI to decide this. The PI can then add the referee to the experimental team thereby granting them access to the data.>> >> The preferred data format for archived data will be HDF5 as container and Nexus as the ontology. Conversion programs will convert HDF5/Nexus to other formats if required.>> >> Kind regards>> >> Andy>> >> On 07/02/2016 08:54, John Helliwell wrote:>>> Dear Andy,>>> Please also accept my Hearty congratulations on this very important development.>>> >>> The access to specific data sets by referees, an editor and eventually readers of an article relying on those data will be via your registration process mentioned in the policy I assume? Very often this will be before 3 years have elapsed since the measurements; will (registered) access be allowed during those first three years? (referees of course may well need to be anonymous to conform with a given journal's policy and/or their own wishes.)>>> Like Tom, I put out a tweet yesterday evening. One immediate query that has come up concerned data format (Nexus was asked about). If you let me have your answer (in less than 140 characters) I will reply for you if you wish. Or, with your permission, I can let the person who raised it know that you are the person to contact.>>> >>> Hearty congratulations once again.>>> John>>> >>> >>> >>> Emeritus Prof of Chemistry John R Helliwell DSc_Physics>>> https://www.crcpress.com/Perspectives-in-Crystallography/Helliwell/9781498732109 >>> A new book which resonates with the recent UN, UNESCO and IUCr International Year of Crystallography.>>> >>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 17:31, "Andy Gotz" <andy.gotz@esrf.fr> wrote:>>> >>>> Dear All,>>>> >>>> FYI an article on the ESRF data policy is now online:>>>> >>>> http://www.esrf.eu/home/news/general/content-news/general/esrf-takes-the-helm-in-saving-data.html >>>> >>>> It will be presented at the ESRF Users meeting next week.>>>> >>>> Andy>>>> _______________________________________________>>>> dddwg mailing list>>>> dddwg@iucr.org>>>> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg>>> _______________________________________________>>> dddwg mailing list>>> dddwg@iucr.org>>> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg>> >> _______________________________________________>> dddwg mailing list>> dddwg@iucr.org>> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg> > -- > Dr. Wladek Minor> Professor of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics> Phone: 434-243-6865> Fax: 434-982-1616> http://krzys.med.virginia.edu/CrystUVa/wladek.htm> > > US-mail address:> Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics> University of Virginia> PO Box 800736, Charlottesville, VA 22908-0736> > Fed-Ex address:> Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics> 1340 Jefferson Park Avenue> University of Virginia> Charlottesville, VA 22908> > > ----> _______________________________________________> dddwg mailing list> dddwg@iucr.org> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg_______________________________________________dddwg mailing listdddwg@iucr.orghttp://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg
Reply to: [list | sender only]
- References:
- [dddwg] ESRF data policy article (Andy Gotz)
- Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article (John Helliwell)
- Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article (Andy Gotz)
- Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article (Wladek Minor)
- Prev by Date: Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- Next by Date: Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- Prev by thread: Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- Next by thread: [dddwg] non-reproducibility
- Index(es):