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Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- To: IUCr Working Group on Diffraction data Deposition <dddwg@iucr.org>
- Subject: Re: [dddwg] ESRF data policy article
- From: Wladek Minor <wladek@iwonka.med.virginia.edu>
- Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 04:48:15 -0500
- Cc: Marek Grabowski <marek@iwonka.med.virginia.edu>
- In-Reply-To: <56B70486.8020907@esrf.fr>
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Dear Andy, This is great. You may also look into our server http://proteindiffraction.org. I have a question about 3 years. Should it be 3 years since the diffraction experiment or three years after PDB deposit ? In my mind, data should available immediately when PDB deposit is released. Best regards Wladek On 2/7/2016 3:47 AM, Andy Gotz wrote:> Dear John,> thank you for your encouragement and support. The dddwg definitely > played a role to get us this far and will continue to help defining > standards for preserving data for diffraction experiments. We always > cite the dddwg and its work when explaining the ESRF data policy. > Thank you too and long live the dddwg!>> The policy foresees data being released by the PI before the 3 year > embargo has expired. This is primarily to allow and encourage > scientists to make the data publicly available as soon as they publish > their results. The policy does not foresee the specific case of > anonymous access for referees before the PI has made the data public > and/or the 3 year embargo period has expired. If referees want access > to the data beforehand we think it is up to the PI to decide this. The > PI can then add the referee to the experimental team thereby granting > them access to the data.>> The preferred data format for archived data will be HDF5 as container > and Nexus as the ontology. Conversion programs will convert HDF5/Nexus > to other formats if required.>> Kind regards>> Andy>> On 07/02/2016 08:54, John Helliwell wrote:>> Dear Andy,>> Please also accept my Hearty congratulations on this very important >> development.>>>> The access to specific data sets by referees, an editor and >> eventually readers of an article relying on those data will be via >> your registration process mentioned in the policy I assume? Very >> often this will be before 3 years have elapsed since the >> measurements; will (registered) access be allowed during those first >> three years? (referees of course may well need to be anonymous to >> conform with a given journal's policy and/or their own wishes.)>> Like Tom, I put out a tweet yesterday evening. One immediate query >> that has come up concerned data format (Nexus was asked about). If >> you let me have your answer (in less than 140 characters) I will >> reply for you if you wish. Or, with your permission, I can let the >> person who raised it know that you are the person to contact.>>>> Hearty congratulations once again.>> John>>>>>>>> Emeritus Prof of Chemistry John R Helliwell DSc_Physics>> https://www.crcpress.com/Perspectives-in-Crystallography/Helliwell/9781498732109 >>>> A new book which resonates with the recent UN, UNESCO and IUCr >> International Year of Crystallography.>>>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 17:31, "Andy Gotz" <andy.gotz@esrf.fr> wrote:>>>>> Dear All,>>>>>> FYI an article on the ESRF data policy is now online:>>>>>> http://www.esrf.eu/home/news/general/content-news/general/esrf-takes-the-helm-in-saving-data.html >>>>>>>>> It will be presented at the ESRF Users meeting next week.>>>>>> Andy>>> _______________________________________________>>> dddwg mailing list>>> dddwg@iucr.org>>> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg>> _______________________________________________>> dddwg mailing list>> dddwg@iucr.org>> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg>> _______________________________________________> dddwg mailing list> dddwg@iucr.org> http://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg -- Dr. Wladek MinorProfessor of Molecular Physiology and Biological PhysicsPhone: 434-243-6865Fax: 434-982-1616http://krzys.med.virginia.edu/CrystUVa/wladek.htm US-mail address:Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological PhysicsUniversity of VirginiaPO Box 800736, Charlottesville, VA 22908-0736 Fed-Ex address:Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics1340 Jefferson Park AvenueUniversity of VirginiaCharlottesville, VA 22908 ----_______________________________________________dddwg mailing listdddwg@iucr.orghttp://mailman.iucr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dddwg
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