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Re: New data name _exptl_absorpt.special_details
- To: James Hester <james.r.hester@gmail.com>, Distribution list of the IUCr COMCIFS Core Dictionary Maintenance Group<coredmg@iucr.org>
- Subject: Re: New data name _exptl_absorpt.special_details
- From: "Herbert J. Bernstein via coreDMG" <coredmg@iucr.org>
- Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 06:21:31 -0400
- Cc: "Herbert J. Bernstein" <yayahjb@gmail.com>
- In-Reply-To: <CAM+dB2caOr_oQTcMZeT=5Q3Pepb0ekB-af_xPXXVx8dGO8dLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Harmless to add it, a problem if you don't. Sounds like a good idea to add it.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 11:02 PM James H via coreDMG <coredmg@iucr.org> wrote:
Dear Core DMG,_______________________________________________Antanas Vaitkus has discovered that _exptl_absorpt_special_details has never been defined in an official dictionary although it appears over 1000 times in the Crystallographic Open Database. There is an obvious use case, as shown in a "SHELX for neutrons" tutorial that contains an example using this tag to record how absorption values for neutrons are calculated. Antanas' description of the issue can be read at https://github.com/COMCIFS/cif_core/issues/234 , and the slide show with example of use of this tag is at  https://chemistry.harvard.edu/files/chemistry/files/tutorial_using_shelx_for_neutrons.pdfNote that the dictionary already defines a tag _exptl_absorpt_process_details, which is defined as  Â  Description of the absorption correction process applied to the  measured intensities. A literature reference should be supplied
  for psi-scan or multi-scan techniques.As Antanas notes, many of those 1000 files include values both for this data name as well as _exptl_absorpt_special_details, meaning that this is not a coding mistake.Please comment on whether or not you agree with this data name being added to the core dictionary. I believe the definition is self-evident, along the lines of "Information not covered by other data names in the exptl_absorpt category, for example, details of the calculation of the absorption correction factor mu". Please note that silence means that you consent to the data name being added!Of course, we would rather not be playing catch-up with definitions, as we are in this case, so I would encourage any of you who see a deficit in our suite of definitions to take the lead in discussing adding them to the dictionaries. I'd also note that commandeering a data name in the core CIF namespace in this way is undesirable, as it could lead to complete breakdown in our processes (such as they are) and lack of clarity on the meaning of data names in a given CIF file. Fortunately this seems to be an isolated case.thanks,James.--T +61 (02) 9717 9907
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