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- From: James Hester <jamesrhester@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:07:18 +1100
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My own position is to reserve support pending a demonstration of the utility of the proposed changes, ie I do not favour accepting these changes at this time. The applications for tag sets that I had previously forseen turn out to be relatively pointless, and I remain to be convinced that defining DDL2/1 tags inside a DDLm dictionary is worthwhile. I am willing to be proved wrong on this. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:00 PM, James Hester <jamesrhester@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear DDLm group, > > As per David's request, will you please indicate whether or not you > support the tag set proposal currently posted at > > http://arcib.dowling.edu/~bernsteh/BplusS_DDLm_changes_2Feb11.dic > > James. > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:36 AM, David Brown <idbrown@mcmaster.ca> wrote: >> Dear James, >> >> There seems to be general agreement on Herbert's version of the DDLm changes >> to the alias and xref items given at the url in the email below, but we >> should have a vote to formally adopt these changes in the draft DDLm that we >> are evaluating. Eventually the fully revised DDLm will have to be voted on >> by COMCIFS, but at this stage we need to know that the DDLm discussion group >> is on board so that we can start adapting DDLm CIF dictionaries. In my >> case, this will require changes to the majority of items in the dictionary >> and I want to make sure that we all agree on how aliases should be presented >> before I start making these changes. >> >> Can you please call for a vote. >> >> David >> >> >> >> Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: >> >> These messages are getting too long. I have posted the current >> best draft of what I will be using for my own work at >> >> http://arcib.dowling.edu/~bernsteh/BplusS_DDLm_changes_2Feb11.dic >> >> which should be considered a preliminary proposal to COMCIFs >> in support of the development of a DDLm dictionary for >> imgCIF along with a DDLm dictionary for the portion of the >> mmCIF dictionary needed to support imgCIF. >> >> I hope to have practical code using this to demonstrate in Madrid, >> when we can discuss it face-to-face. >> ===================================================== >> Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science >> Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 >> Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 >> >> +1-631-244-3035 >> yaya@dowling.edu >> ===================================================== >> >> On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Bollinger, John C wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:46 AM, Herbert J. Bernstein wrote: >> [...] >> >> I think the original COMCIFS decision of a global >> name space was a wise choice for the major applications of >> CIF, and would suggest we stick to it for DDLm. >> >> For the record, lest it be obscured by the volume of rhetoric, none of >> the name space issues I have raised in this discussion of DDLm aliases >> should be construed as advocacy for COMCIFS changing policy on naming, >> prefixes, etc.. The introduction of DDLm is no justification for such a >> disruptive move. All I ask the group to consider is whether DDLm should >> provide for cases where COMCIFS policy is not observed. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> John >> >> -- >> John C. Bollinger, Ph.D. >> Department of Structural Biology >> St. Jude Children's Research Hospital >> >> >> Email Disclaimer: www.stjude.org/emaildisclaimer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ddlm-group mailing list >> ddlm-group@iucr.org >> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ddlm-group mailing list >> ddlm-group@iucr.org >> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group >> >> c >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ddlm-group mailing list >> ddlm-group@iucr.org >> http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group >> >> > > > > -- > T +61 (02) 9717 9907 > F +61 (02) 9717 3145 > M +61 (04) 0249 4148 > -- T +61 (02) 9717 9907 F +61 (02) 9717 3145 M +61 (04) 0249 4148 _______________________________________________ ddlm-group mailing list ddlm-group@iucr.org http://scripts.iucr.org/mailman/listinfo/ddlm-group
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