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Re: Advice on COMCIFS policy regarding compatibility of CIFsyntaxwith other domains. .
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- Subject: Re: Advice on COMCIFS policy regarding compatibility of CIFsyntaxwith other domains. .
- From: "Herbert J. Bernstein" <[email protected]>
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:44:12 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear James,
I am not objecting to Brian's document. I think we should keep
as much of it as possible for CIF2. The only problem is that it
is a "semantic" document and your policy according to you and
John B. seems to want to relegate all semantic issues to the
dictionaries. It is that relegation to which I am objecting.
Most features consist of both syntactic and semantic components,
and I find it much less confusing to deal with a feature in
its entirety than to deal with just the syntax.
Until this discussion, I had thought the intent of the dictionaries
was to deal with the tag definitions particular to certain domains
and that both the syantax and semantics of CIF was a global concern.
I find the relegation of the semantics of CIF2 to the dictionaries
surprising and recommend against it. I want to keep Brian's
document a global document.
Regards,
Herbert
=====================================================
Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121
Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
+1-631-244-3035
[email protected]
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, James Hester wrote:
> Dear Herbert,
>
> Please explain why you think that the latest version of the guiding
> principles is at variance with the 'Common Semantic Features' document
> and approach. For example, what would prevent us from adopting a
> similar CSF document for CIF2? It would help if you quoted particular
> points from the guidelines in your reply.
>
> James.
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Herbert J. Bernstein
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> � I would suggest that people review Brian's excellent common
>> semantic features document for CIF 1.1. �I think keeping those
>> sort of semantic decisions couple to the syntax decisions for
>> CIF has worked well, and I do not think the sharp departure
>> now proposed for handling CIF2 will work as well for the
>> reasons I stated previously. �It ain't broke. �Why are
>> we fixing it? �New feautures involve a mix of syntax and
>> semantics depedending on the feature. �I believe we should
>> be focusing on features rather than the bin within which
>> they fit for presentation purposes.
>>
>> � Regards,
>> � � �Herbert
>> =====================================================
>> �Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
>> � �Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121
>> � � � � Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
>>
>> � � � � � � � � �+1-631-244-3035
>> � � � � � � � � �[email protected]
>> =====================================================
>>
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