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Re: Tentative agenda for COMCIFS closed meetings Aug 28th and Aug 29th
- To: "Discussion list of the IUCr Committee for the Maintenance of the CIFStandard (COMCIFS)" <comcifs@iucr.org>
- Subject: Re: Tentative agenda for COMCIFS closed meetings Aug 28th and Aug 29th
- From: "Herbert J. Bernstein" <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:22:49 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Colleagues, Might is be possible to see a document on the new DDLm prior to the meeting? Shouldn't we be having three separate discussions and possible votes: One on DDLm as currently posted, one on DDLm as newly presented, and one on CIF2? The first of these could be done on the 28th. Regards, Herbert ===================================================== Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121 Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769 +1-631-244-3035 yaya@dowling.edu ===================================================== On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, James Hester wrote: > Dear COMCIFS members: > > Below is a tentative agenda for the two COMCIFS closed meetings. Note that the Aug 29th meeting will > occur directly after MS89, at which Nick Spadaccini and Syd Hall will be presenting a revised version of > DDLm. I expect that presentation to provoke considerable discussion, which is why the Aug 29th meeting > will be entirely devoted to CIF2 and DDLm discussion. Please advise if you would like anything added to > the agenda on Aug 28th. > > COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 28th > > 1. Brief report from chair on developments in previous triennium > 2. COMCIFS directions over next triennium: > (i) reforming dictionary management (see also Brian MacMahon's email of July 6th) > (ii) developing a solid software base (APIs, canonical parser libraries in C/C++) > (iii) other concerns to be raised by members > > COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 29th > > 3. Discussion of DDLm as presented in MS89 > 4. Subject to outcome, if any, of (3), *final* vote on CIF2 syntax draft as distributed by email last week > 5. Any other business > > ================ > Explanation of item 2(i): > > I propose partitioning dictionaries that are managed by COMCIFS into three groups: > (i) the 'core' group which are small enough and/or general enough for COMCIFS members to be able to > approve both content and technical conformance; > (ii) a 'delegated' group where COMCIFS delegates management of dictionary content to an outside body or > dictionary management group; once COMCIFS has voted to delegate this management, no further votes would be > required to approve dictionary content or updates, but technical correctness would be checked; > (iii) a 'contributed' group where COMCIFS makes no statement as to scientific content and simply checks > technical conformance. This group would correspond to those dictionaries that Brian was discussing in his > email, and technical conformance would mean a simple syntax and DDL conformance check, not requiring a > vote at COMCIFS level. > > Explanation of item 2(ii): > > Over the years COMCIFS has had various initiatives to produce and promote CIF software, but we are still > at the stage where it is difficult to find a standalone CIF parser written in C that could serve as a > starting point for integration into other languages, scripting or compiled, or could be dropped into a > larger software project. Part of such an effort would be development of an API. I propose that COMCIFS > set itself the entirely modest goal of developing and approving an API and a modular C parser before the > next meeting. We will discuss the best way forward. > > -- > T +61 (02) 9717 9907 > F +61 (02) 9717 3145 > M +61 (04) 0249 4148 > >
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