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Fwd: How do you interpret the difference (if any) between_diffrn_ambient_temperature and _cell_measurement_temperature?

Resending this as there were no replies - perhaps it got lost in theend-of-year distractions? Will also send to the core dictionary group.
---------- Forwarded message ---------From: James H <jamesrhester@gmail.com>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 at 11:32Subject: How do you interpret the difference (if any) between_diffrn_ambient_temperature and _cell_measurement_temperature?To: Forum for CIF software developers <cif-developers@iucr.org>

Hello fellow CIF developers,
At first glance _diffrn_ambient_temperature and_cell_measurement_temperature are describing the same thing. There mayhave been a difference in the past when using point detectors and thecell was determined separately to the data collection, but foranything collected on an area detector I would have expected thesevalues to be the same. However, I've noticed from looking at around10000 files from the COD that, of the files that have both data names,around 1% have different numbers. I'm wondering what this couldpossibly mean, especially when the two numbers are very different e.g.150K and 296K. Given that the cell parameters are necessary to obtainabsolute distances from fractional coordinates, if the diffractiondata are collected at a different temperature to the cell measurement,then surely these atomic distances would be incorrect?  How do thedatabase curators handle this? How are software authors interpretingthese two data names for output or input?
thanks for any insight,James.--T +61 (02) 9717 9907F +61 (02) 9717 3145M +61 (04) 0249 4148

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