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Re: IUCr Congress - Florence

  • To: Multiple recipients of list <comcifs-l@iucr.org>
  • Subject: Re: IUCr Congress - Florence
  • From: John Faber <faber@icdd.com>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:55:20 GMT
Dear David:
I concur with Herbert Bernstein.  Especially on uses of XML, and it is 
precisely because ICDD is designing databases that this becomes relevant 
for me.
Excellent ideas.
John Faber

At 03:15 PM 11/5/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear David,
>   I like the idea of a CIF program.  I think we need both a workshop and
>scientific sessions.  However, in all fairness to those who are working
>with other approaches, I think we should make both the workshop and the
>scientific sessions cover all currently active approaches to data/metadata
>representation for structural studies, with an explicit invitation for the
>XML proponents to participate.  Therefore, I would suggest that COMCIFS
>in collaboration with the appropriate IUCr Commissions organize:
>   1.  A workshop in data/metadata representation for structural studies,
>covering the uses of CIF, STAR, XML, ASN.1, ... in crystallography, NMR,
>etc., with emphasis on issues of available ontologies and mechanisms for
>interchange and interoperability.  The focus of the workshop would be on
>what working crystallographers, chemists and biologists need to know to
>handle their structural data effectively, from collection to deposition
>and publication.
>   2.  At least one scientific session on hot topics in data/metadata
>representation for structural studies.  The focus of the session
>would be on where data/metadata representation issues relevant to
>structure studies are headed.  The primary audience would be the
>architects of databases and software systems that will have to provide
>the infrastructure for the field as it evolves.
>   Regards,
>     Herbert
>  Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
>    Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 020
>         Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
>                  +1-631-244-3035
>                  yaya@dowling.edu
>On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, I. David Brown wrote:
> >       Although many of us have hardly finished unpacking from Geneva,
> > the Computing Commission of the IUCr is currently making plans for
> > workshops and satelite meetings for Florence in 2005.  It is not too early
> > for us to be thinking if we should be organizing a program on CIF - a
> > satelite meeting, workshop, microsymposium, open commission meeting etc.
> > perhaps in conjunction with one of the commissions.  Two areas that we
> > might consider are: future directions for CIF, and selling the CIF to the
> > community (directed either at software producers or end users).
> >
> >       Does anyone have any suggestions that they would be willing to
> > follow up?  Now is the time to get our foot in the door.
> >
> >                               David Brown
> >                               COMCIFS Chair
> >
> > *****************************************************
> > Dr.I.David Brown,  Professor Emeritus
> > Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research,
> > McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
> > Tel: 1-(905)-525-9140 ext 24710
> > Fax: 1-(905)-521-2773
> > idbrown@mcmaster.ca
> > *****************************************************
> >

John Faber, Ph.D.
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