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Re: IUCr Congress - Florence

I support Herbert's suggestion of a workshop and a scientific session.
Data/metadata representation is increasingly important to all scientists
.. even to those that don't realise it yet. We may have to be clever in
the way we label these sessions... e.g. "Why better metadata and 
promote scientific advances!"... or something like that.

Cheers, Syd

On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 11:15  PM, Herbert J. Bernstein wrote:

> Dear David,
>   I like the idea of a CIF program.  I think we need both a workshop and
> scientific sessions.  However, in all fairness to those who are working
> with other approaches, I think we should make both the workshop and the
> scientific sessions cover all currently active approaches to 
> data/metadata
> representation for structural studies, with an explicit invitation for 
> the
> XML proponents to participate.  Therefore, I would suggest that COMCIFS
> in collaboration with the appropriate IUCr Commissions organize:
>   1.  A workshop in data/metadata representation for structural studies,
> covering the uses of CIF, STAR, XML, ASN.1, ... in crystallography, NMR,
> etc., with emphasis on issues of available ontologies and mechanisms for
> interchange and interoperability.  The focus of the workshop would be on
> what working crystallographers, chemists and biologists need to know to
> handle their structural data effectively, from collection to deposition
> and publication.
>   2.  At least one scientific session on hot topics in data/metadata
> representation for structural studies.  The focus of the session
> would be on where data/metadata representation issues relevant to
> structure studies are headed.  The primary audience would be the
> architects of databases and software systems that will have to provide
> the infrastructure for the field as it evolves.
>   Regards,
>     Herbert
> =====================================================
>  Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
>    Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 020
>         Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
>                  +1-631-244-3035
>                  yaya@dowling.edu
> =====================================================
> On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, I. David Brown wrote:
>> 	Although many of us have hardly finished unpacking from Geneva,
>> the Computing Commission of the IUCr is currently making plans for
>> workshops and satelite meetings for Florence in 2005.  It is not too 
>> early
>> for us to be thinking if we should be organizing a program on CIF - a
>> satelite meeting, workshop, microsymposium, open commission meeting 
>> etc.
>> perhaps in conjunction with one of the commissions.  Two areas that we
>> might consider are: future directions for CIF, and selling the CIF to 
>> the
>> community (directed either at software producers or end users).
>> 	Does anyone have any suggestions that they would be willing to
>> follow up?  Now is the time to get our foot in the door.
>> 				David Brown
>> 				COMCIFS Chair
>> *****************************************************
>> Dr.I.David Brown,  Professor Emeritus
>> Brockhouse Institute for Materials Research,
>> McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>> Tel: 1-(905)-525-9140 ext 24710
>> Fax: 1-(905)-521-2773
>> idbrown@mcmaster.ca
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