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Below is a tentative agenda for the two COMCIFS closed meetings.� Note that the Aug 29th meeting will occur directly after MS89, at which Nick Spadaccini and Syd Hall will be presenting a revised version of DDLm.� I expect that presentation to provoke considerable discussion, which is why the Aug 29th meeting will be entirely devoted to CIF2 and DDLm discussion.� Please advise if you would like anything added to the agenda on Aug 28th.�
COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 28th
1. Brief report from chair on developments in previous triennium
2. COMCIFS directions over next triennium:
�(i) reforming dictionary management (see also Brian MacMahon's email of July 6th)
�(ii) developing a solid software base (APIs, canonical parser libraries in C/C++)
�(iii) other concerns to be raised by members
COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 29th
3. Discussion of DDLm as presented in MS89
4. Subject to outcome, if any, of (3), *final* vote on CIF2 syntax draft as distributed by email last week
5. Any other business
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Explanation of item 2(i):
I propose partitioning dictionaries that are managed by COMCIFS into three groups:
(i) the 'core' group which are small enough and/or general enough for COMCIFS members to be able to approve both content and technical conformance;
(ii) a 'delegated' group where COMCIFS delegates management of dictionary content to an outside body or dictionary management group; once COMCIFS has voted to delegate this management, no further votes would be required to approve dictionary content or updates, but technical correctness would be checked;
(iii) a 'contributed' group where COMCIFS makes no statement as to scientific content and simply checks technical conformance.� This group would correspond to those dictionaries that Brian was discussing in his email, and technical conformance would mean a simple syntax and DDL conformance check, not requiring a vote at COMCIFS level.
Explanation of item 2(ii):
Over the years COMCIFS has had various initiatives to produce and promote CIF software, but we are still at the stage where it is difficult to find a standalone CIF parser written in C that could serve as a starting point for integration into other languages, scripting or compiled, or could be dropped into a larger software project.� Part of such an effort would be development of an API.� I propose that COMCIFS set itself the entirely modest goal of developing and approving an API and a modular C parser before the next meeting.� We will discuss the best way forward.
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Tentative agenda for COMCIFS closed meetings Aug 28th and Aug 29th
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- Subject: Tentative agenda for COMCIFS closed meetings Aug 28th and Aug 29th
- From: James Hester <[email protected]>
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:45:30 +1000
Below is a tentative agenda for the two COMCIFS closed meetings.� Note that the Aug 29th meeting will occur directly after MS89, at which Nick Spadaccini and Syd Hall will be presenting a revised version of DDLm.� I expect that presentation to provoke considerable discussion, which is why the Aug 29th meeting will be entirely devoted to CIF2 and DDLm discussion.� Please advise if you would like anything added to the agenda on Aug 28th.�
COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 28th
1. Brief report from chair on developments in previous triennium
2. COMCIFS directions over next triennium:
�(i) reforming dictionary management (see also Brian MacMahon's email of July 6th)
�(ii) developing a solid software base (APIs, canonical parser libraries in C/C++)
�(iii) other concerns to be raised by members
COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 29th
3. Discussion of DDLm as presented in MS89
4. Subject to outcome, if any, of (3), *final* vote on CIF2 syntax draft as distributed by email last week
5. Any other business
================
Explanation of item 2(i):
I propose partitioning dictionaries that are managed by COMCIFS into three groups:
(i) the 'core' group which are small enough and/or general enough for COMCIFS members to be able to approve both content and technical conformance;
(ii) a 'delegated' group where COMCIFS delegates management of dictionary content to an outside body or dictionary management group; once COMCIFS has voted to delegate this management, no further votes would be required to approve dictionary content or updates, but technical correctness would be checked;
(iii) a 'contributed' group where COMCIFS makes no statement as to scientific content and simply checks technical conformance.� This group would correspond to those dictionaries that Brian was discussing in his email, and technical conformance would mean a simple syntax and DDL conformance check, not requiring a vote at COMCIFS level.
Explanation of item 2(ii):
Over the years COMCIFS has had various initiatives to produce and promote CIF software, but we are still at the stage where it is difficult to find a standalone CIF parser written in C that could serve as a starting point for integration into other languages, scripting or compiled, or could be dropped into a larger software project.� Part of such an effort would be development of an API.� I propose that COMCIFS set itself the entirely modest goal of developing and approving an API and a modular C parser before the next meeting.� We will discuss the best way forward.
�
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